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Full HD 3D will not be possible on current consoles Smoking
 Gavin Mannion   July 19th, 2010  clock image  12:15 pm

Full HD 3D will not be possible on current consoles WipeoutHD thumb   Lazygamer

So you have your shiny (or matte) HD console sitting under your ludicrously expensive 46” 3D TV and you can’t wait to sit down and jam some 1080p 3D gaming goodness.

Unfortunately there are no 1080p 3D games available at the moment but you think to yourself, I’m not going to worry it’s only a matter of time.

But that’s where you are wrong…

Unfortunately the current generation PS3’s have a HDMI 1.4 enabled port (the 360 is only on 1.2 as far as I can tell) and while version 1.4 of HDMI is capable of sending down 3D in 1080p it is only capable of doing it at 24fps.

So if they did make a game which displayed in 1080p 3D it would play like a dog and there is nothing much the developers could do about it.

Which is why Sony is recommending that all developers tailor their 3D games for an output of 720p even though the console can support 1080p and they are going to be releasing a Blu-Ray patch to enable 1080p 3D movie streaming later this year.

Because when we are watching movies 24fps is more than acceptable but it just doesn’t work with gaming.

The big question here though is whether or not this matters to 99.9% of people out there and whether it can be fixed?

Personally I can’t see the difference between 720p and 1080p on my 42” and according to Sony themselves, even trained computer graphics artists can barely see the difference between 3D in 720p and 1080p so what chance do us mere mortals have.

As to whether this deficiency can be fixed via a software update, from my understanding it can but if it was that simple it would have already happened so I am going for a solid maybe on this one.

In a nutshell, no current home console can deliver a True HD 3D gaming experience, no matter what the marketing material alludes to.

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    July 19, 2010
    12:50 pm
    Tsjarlie
    Reply

    What about GT5 and Wipeout HD?
    I thought they were 1080p and are also 3D.

    Blast factor is also 3D and 1080p


      July 19, 2010
      1:33 pm
      Gavin Mannion
      Reply

      They are both 720p when in 3D…

      I also thought the 3D titles were 1080p which is why I found this interesting


      July 19, 2010
      1:13 pm
      Fred
      Reply

      Super Stardust Hd3D pushes out at 720p and 120FPS , 60fps for each eye , and that alone is an accomplishment for the ps3 and dev team .
      1080P 60HZ 3D is for the next generation.


        July 19, 2010
        1:36 pm
        Gavin Mannion
        Reply

        yeah but like I said it can only do 720p.. that’s the point


        July 19, 2010
        3:05 pm
        Manuel
        Reply

        @Gavin Mannion
        OMG it’s ONLY 720p in 3D Games!
        Do a little research about this subject and you will see why it’s 720p. I won’t do your job.
        GTA IV and RDR on PS3, Alan Wake and Halo 3 aren’t even 720p in 2D. Neither of them looks as good as Killzone 2 and Killzone 3 looks even better in 2D AND 3D.


        July 19, 2010
        3:19 pm
        plmko
        Reply

        So like we are all playing 720p games…and then suddenly when you hear about 3D games also being 720p it’s bad?


          July 19, 2010
          4:57 pm
          Steve Hofmeyr
          Reply

          Seems like you missed the paragraph where he says that it’s hard to spot the difference between 1080p and 720p.


          July 19, 2010
          4:23 pm
          knowledge is in the pudding
          Reply

          We are entering the forth year of the PS3 in november. Two years or so after november I can see the PS3 displaying games in 1080p, 3D, and keeping a solid 60fps(30fps in each eye) all in parallel. Just look at Killzone2, Uncharted2, GT5(18mp screenshots).


            July 19, 2010
            4:24 pm
            Cockmon
            Reply

            Lmfao


              July 19, 2010
              4:41 pm
              Sony PS3: Full HD 3D not possible
              Reply

              [...] it doesn’t look like it will be possible for a long time either.According to Gavin Mannion at lazygamer.co.za, the current Sony PS3’s have a HDMI 1.4 enabled port and while version 1.4 of HDMI may well be [...]


                July 19, 2010
                6:41 pm
                1080p 3D Not Possible on Current PlayStation 3 « BeefJack - The Gamer's Sauce
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                  July 19, 2010
                  7:57 pm
                  Grey
                  Reply

                  This sucks for those who don’t care for 3D gaming as games that are tailored for it will be scaled down to 720p. The fact that Sony says that there artists can’t tell the difference between the 720p and 1080p is absurd, its twice the resolution, I’m a graphic designer and I can easily tell the difference. I’ve done the comparison using PC games at either resolution and looked at the screenshot anyone who can’t tell the difference is probably in need of glasses.


                    July 20, 2010
                    11:11 am
                    RSA-Ace
                    Reply

                    Only in 3D mode will it be downscaled, but besides that there are more factors than just the resolution so maybe don’t jump to conclusions so quickly. On a PC it’s very noticeable because you are <1m away from the screen.

                    http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html

                    Lets say you sit about 2.2m (7.5 feet) -random number but easy to work with in feet. I'll also assume that the your is 40" diagonal. At this distance there is no noticeable difference between 720p and 1080p.


                    July 19, 2010
                    11:13 pm
                    Gavin Mannion
                    Reply

                    I am loving the passionate defenses people have for the consoles only being able to play in 720p, it reminds me of when we used to point out flaws in the PS3 on it’s release and people came flocking to call us idiots…

                    I shouldn’t have to repeat it but I will, personally 720p has always been fine for me. Check the archives if you think otherwise.


                      July 20, 2010
                      6:52 am
                      RSA-Ace
                      Reply

                      720p/30fps is perfect for me this generation. It’s the sweet-spot for awesome graphics and performance.


                        July 20, 2010
                        6:55 am
                        RSA-Ace
                        Reply

                        Next generation I’m expecting 1080p/60fps. But then I’m guessing that 4xHD (4096p) will start becoming a reality at the end of that life cycle.


                          July 20, 2010
                          7:17 am
                          easy
                          Reply

                          still fighting the good fight hey lazy ;)
                          huzzah!


                            July 20, 2010
                            7:44 am
                            Gavin Mannion

                            Never give in… Never Surrender… :ninja:


                          July 20, 2010
                          10:31 am
                          eltonriley
                          Reply

                          And after all this time, you’re still an idiot. Why? Because if you don’t think that 720p coming from the each of the glasses is at least pretty reasonable, then you really are a douche. At least their 3D is 720, my Halo wasn’t even 720 when I still had my douchebox360, and that was in 2D. :sick:


                            July 20, 2010
                            12:43 pm
                            Gavin Mannion

                            Wow so I’m an idiot for reporting something that most people didn’t appear to know…

                            Screw the fact that I said it didn’t matter and that 720p is more than good enough..

                            Seriously do you really see this article as an attack on the PS3? Because I would love to see how you figured that little nugget out.


                        July 19, 2010
                        11:52 pm
                        Gavin Mannion
                        Reply

                        Awesome MSNBC has picked up on the story (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38312259/ns/technology_and_science-games/)

                        Pity they didn’t give a nod back :tongue: , but then again it could be a MASSIVE coincidence


                          July 20, 2010
                          12:57 pm
                          3D Full HD w grach jeszcze nie teraz | Telewizory 3D
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                            July 21, 2010
                            9:05 am
                            Anonymous
                            Reply

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                              July 21, 2010
                              5:19 pm
                              nic5king
                              Reply

                              most people dont even have hd tv’s yet ok most of you probably do, but Gavin is wright 720p is good enough and it is still great to watch. ya and dont hate on him because he’s reporting the news it’s his JOB MAN!

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